User talk:Mjdavey

Hello Mark. Thank you for your upload of the Berkovitch piece, but we need more information to make sure that it isn't still in copyright — specifically, when Berkovitch (Berkovich?) died, and when the Prelude was composed and first published. If you can point us to any biographical sources for the composer, that could also be helpful. Otherwise we'll have to err on the side of caution and delete the file in a few days, and it will remain blocked in the meantime. Thanks — P.davydov 04:47, 26 March 2009 (EDT)

Berkovitch

Hi

I am struggling to find anything about this guy. I was given the music (photocopy)6 months ago, the copy was a copy of a copy etc and very faint. no publishing details, and in Russian! I will try again, but I have search the intarweb to no avail.

This is why, having recreated the music, I have submitted it!

I will continue to search and hopefully will find more out soon.

Mark

Thanks for letting us know! I could not find anything on him either. It might help us if you could post a scan of the original publication along with your typeset. I can usually identify the product of the Russian publishers Jurgenson, Belaieff, Bessel, and Gutheil along with that of Muzgiz. My dictionary of Russian and Soviet composers lists a Isaak Berkovich as having lived until 1974. Carolus 16:46, 26 March 2009 (EDT) (IMSLP Copyright Admin)

Carolus: As soon as I find it (I think it is buried under piles of other papers, accounts and music...!), I will gladly submit it to your eagle eyes. I am very curious about this whole thing! Mark

carolus: i have now found my original photocopied source, and scanned it - how/where do i send it?

Hi Mark, your upload worked fine, so Carolus should be able to have a look at it. I couldn't see the name of the composer anywhere on this page, merely the Cyrillic for "Prelude" and "F sharp minor", so how did you come by the name of the composer? Regards, Philip Legge _{@ © talk} 21:38, 7 April 2009 (EDT)

Hi, I've now looked this over. It appears to be a Soviet-era engraving, not something which was originally produced by one of the older Russian publishers. It looks closest in style to the output of Sovietski Kompozitor, which really only started producing things on a large scale in the late 1950s. I think there is a high likelihood that Berkovich is actually under copyright and recommend that you refrain from posting here until we have confirmation the composer died more than 50 years ago. Carolus 22:12, 7 April 2009 (EDT)

Copyright issue

Ah... ok :( Thats not such good news. Well thanks for helping me there. I would still like to know more about this guy tho... but I guess thats a separate subject.

If you should find that he died before 1960, we would consider posting it. He's obscure enough that his work was most likely not included in the list of NIEs filed by Schirmer in the wake of the 1996 GATT/TRIPs amendments to the US copyright law. Carolus 14:39, 8 April 2009 (EDT) (IMSLP Copyright Admin)

Date of Death!

OK, well I spoke to my Russian friend (the original present donor) last night and she will be seeing her music teacher soon (at the Moscow Conservatory) and will find out more then...

In the meantime, Ill stick to well dead people!

Thanks again for your interest...

Date of death more than 50 years ago

FYI: I created the composer page https://imslp.org/wiki/Category:Berkovich,_Isaak , the date as taken from wikipedia and multiple sources is 1972 https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isaak_Berkowitsch and https://musopus.net/musicians/berkovich-isaak-yakovich/